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Shinjo Atreyu
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:20 pm

There should be no question that our Primary path choice should be to "Assemble your Forces and Do your Duty" with a focus on "Protect the Peasants". Compassion is the Unicorn's defining Virtue, so much so that peasants openly celebrate when they become Unicorn vassals. It's the reason the Ujik-hai ever became the Moto we know - because of Shinjo's compassion. It's the reason why the Horiuchi family even existed at all, because Samurai in the empire finally cared about the lives of not only others but the less-well-off during the Clan Wars.

Let us embrace our clan's virtue and show the Empire what the strength of Compassion can really do.

As for our bonus option of finding allies, we should most definitely look beyond the Empire. We have almost a thousand years of our own experiences beyond the Emerald Empire and now the story team is effectively asking us "Do you want to see your Clan's illustrious history finally enjoy story time?" No more being the barbarians defending ourselves from others' perceptions - now we get to define the terms by bringing those allies to the Empire, leveraging the contacts we made so many years ago. Be it the Yobanjin, the Senpet, or somehow even the Yodotai, it is our responsibility to help the Empire in this most unique way we have.

Except for the Kolat. They should not even be possibly considered. Not even remotely. Consorting with them led directly to the greatest shame still staining our family - the displacement of the Shinjo from the Clan Championship, taking fully generations to recover. And still we have not fully done so, as the Shinjo have not reclaimed the leadership of the clan. Reaching out to them would only compound our clan's worst error and confirm everything our worst detractors say about us and about the "corruption" in our ranks.

Never. Again.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:21 pm

Where is our "Path of Chagatai" option? Moto Taigo for Emperor!

We could have the Annual Chagatai Ceremony, where the Lion nominate a new Clan Champion, and then the Son of Chagatai cuts him down in honour of his father :p

(Please note this is to be taken in jest ... ish)

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:28 pm

An addendum, though:

We should also consider a secondary Path of "Saving the Spider."

At the dawn of history, when the Kami fell to earth, the founding gods saw that their brother was missing and, assuming he died, mourned for him. But when they discovered he yet lived - even if corrupted - one risked her life to save him.

It was Shinjo.

Shinjo alone believed that despite all the darkness she knew lay in her brother's heart, her love for him and her place as his sister meant that she had to try.

And Fu Leng heard her.

Despite being dominated by the taint, Fu Leng held back and let Shinjo go when she came to see him deep in the shadowlands. And generations later, when the Nothing captured our Kami, Fu Leng swore death and fire if the Darkness even thought about corrupting her. Despite all that Jigoku had done to his spirit and his mind, Fu Leng had heard his sister, remembered, and even fought himself to save her as she tried to save him.

So we owe it to our founding Kami to reach out to the Spider. Even as they fall into darkness, it is our clan's responsibility as the heirs to Shinjo to reach out and try to save those Spider who would resist the long night, as she tried to save Fu Leng at the dawn of time. Bring those who would reject Jigoku and the Spider Clan's "Embrace Evil" option into our clan. Even if the Spider would die, the memory of those who would be pure should live. And maybe, just maybe, our guiding hand might be enough to sway them back onto the righteous path and undo even a little what Kanpeki has so terribly done.

Save the Spider. No one else will, so let us demonstrate Compassion and try where no one else will. Shinjo would.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:48 pm

I am totally on board with option 1, but I think we should be helping them help themselves. Unicorn are compassionate, but also pragmatic. The functionalist approach to the coming darkness would be to have as many able bodied individuals ready to defend the empire.

Also, without a doubt we should choose the 'seek allies' option. The clan of explorers should use be able to use their skills to protect the empire. I want it to be the Yodotai, for no real reason, other than that they are awesome looking Roman-esque soldiers.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:27 pm

Gotta say, I am quite impressed how much options are available to us, none of them blatantly 'bad' to me.

Nothing wrong with 1. and show our compassionate side

2. Is also very exciting as it allows some good cross clan interactions

And the bonus options are very flexible, which gives enough allowance to nominate a March of the Kami/Khan/Shogun/Champion type scenario.

Won't be easy to just come up with one option, I agree no allying with Kolat given how disastrous it was before, arguably, the March of the Khan 1.0 was pretty fun, given the number of Lion Champion corpses along the way.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 3:38 pm

Well, it would seem that the Story Team knows us well! Option one is essentially what we were talking about in the other thread. Less Clan-wide mobility, but still.

Of the options presented, I am for option 1, either A or B. Preferably a combination of the two. After all, armed ashigaru might be able to hold off bandits, or even a small group of samurai, but without proper training against Shadowlands beasties, they're not going to do so well.

As for seeking allies, I am of like mind with thoughts presented here. We want nothing to do with the "Modern" Kolat, and we should go outside. As for my preferences for outside aide, here are my thoughts:

-Yodotai: A strong ally, no doubt, but way too regimented for the freedom our clan espouses. Plus they'd try to take over the Empire, just making things worse. I vote No.

-Yobanjin: We already intermarry with them, and they bring some neat elements to the table, especially if we get them to share the knowledge hidden away in their cities on the river. Unfortunately, the People of the Steppes still remember the days of the Ujik-Hai, and that could cause inter-clan conflict we don't need. I vote Maybe, leaning No.

Burning Sands:
-Senpet: Mostly destroyed, and would raise tensions with the Scorpion Clan. I vote No.

-Khadi: NOPE NOPE NOPE

-Qabal: We helped them take the Jewel of the Desert back in the Sands, as well as having ties to their magic through the Iuchi Definitely a possibility, no Ghuls though >:(. However, their knowledge of Ghuls could be very strong in fighting the undead. I vote Maybe, leaning Yes.

-Ra' Shari: Huge connections here, but not really a militant people. The divination would be awesome though. Maybe, leaning Yes.

-Djinn: See aforementioned line of NOPE

-Ivindi: Don't know enough to recommend one way or another, but they have pretty strong ties to the Mantis already

-Marenae/Thrane/Etc: Seriously? Do we want to get executed for bringing guns back to the empire?
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:58 pm

Option 1, A, protect the people is the way I am currently leaning. I will reserve until I have a chance to hear further council from more of our brothers and sisters. I say in this tide of darkness let us be the light of compassion.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:20 pm

Kolat.... :twisted:
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:26 pm

Shinjo Atreyu wrote:So we owe it to our founding Kami to reach out to the Spider. Even as they fall into darkness, it is our clan's responsibility as the heirs to Shinjo to reach out and try to save those Spider who would resist the long night, as she tried to save Fu Leng at the dawn of time. Bring those who would reject Jigoku and the Spider Clan's "Embrace Evil" option into our clan. Even if the Spider would die, the memory of those who would be pure should live. And maybe, just maybe, our guiding hand might be enough to sway them back onto the righteous path and undo even a little what Kanpeki has so terribly done.

Save the Spider. No one else will, so let us demonstrate Compassion and try where no one else will. Shinjo would.
I feel a strong emotional attachment to this path, and would like to see it be available. Perhaps it could inform our alliance path, should the Spider end up being the clan we try to ally with.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:44 pm

With regards to allying with the Spider, we have to be careful not for this to be interpreted as supporting the tainted/corrupted version of Spider (if they ended up that way). We may not have been given the option to choose to ally/save the 'good' portion of Spider. So I would be very wary to go down this path without the right assurances.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:45 pm

Maybe with some talking there could be an option 2 alliance with spider if they choose the path of light. That would be pretty interesting.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:01 pm

I'm liking the armed peasants of option 1. But I also like the allying with the Spider option that was presented as well.

As for the bonus option allying or conquering forces outside the empire for our benefit seems to be the best idea. Maybe if we can get that Yodotai book back from the Lion we can either use it as a peace offering or to give us the knowledge to take them down.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:31 pm

Protecting the Peasants is our most thematic choice of those suggested by AEG.

I like the idea of merging path 1 & 2, bouncing around and trying to assist everyone who stands against the darkness. Whether it be the Lion, Crab, a minor clan, or peasants; we should turn no one who needs us away, if it's in our power to help.

It would wear us thin too be sure, but that's the path Shinjo should ride. One of true compassion.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:34 pm

Ide Marth wrote:
Shinjo Atreyu wrote:
So we owe it to our founding Kami to reach out to the Spider. Even as they fall into darkness, it is our clan's responsibility as the heirs to Shinjo to reach out and try to save those Spider who would resist the long night, as she tried to save Fu Leng at the dawn of time. Bring those who would reject Jigoku and the Spider Clan's "Embrace Evil" option into our clan. Even if the Spider would die, the memory of those who would be pure should live. And maybe, just maybe, our guiding hand might be enough to sway them back onto the righteous path and undo even a little what Kanpeki has so terribly done.

Save the Spider. No one else will, so let us demonstrate Compassion and try where no one else will. Shinjo would.


I feel a strong emotional attachment to this path, and would like to see it be available. Perhaps it could inform our alliance path, should the Spider end up being the clan we try to ally with.
I advise caution here, Shinjo sought to turn Fu-Leng from his madness, not ally with him. When he would not turn from his path, Shinjo returned to the Empire. Yes Fu-Leng remembered her, but he did not turn from his madness. I am not against saving the Spider who turn away from Jigoku, but I am also not willing to ally with Kanpeki while he pushes for the throne, and is an ally of Jigoku. People are the treasure of Rokugan, both samurai, and heimin. Let us focus on shielding, protecting the people in this tide of rising darkness.

I am also among those who say an emphatic NO! to the Kolat. Never again should we ever taint ourselves with their ilk.

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Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:42 pm

If we go duty I'm all for the Ashigaru and particularly ronin path. I would also like to see assisting a minor clan in training to become a kind of specialist force as well.

If we ally it would be Spider if they choose light. Should they not it may be interesting to provide a home for individuals or families that choose to split from a tainty spider path.

As for the future choices. Exploring ftw ;)

Kolat: only if we can infiltrate, subvert and eventually crush them (or at least seriously deminish them as they do make an interesting story element so wiping them out wouldn't really be cool)
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:45 pm

Greetings from the Crane!

We would like to tender a proposal for an alliance, which we've been discussing here:

http://homeofthecraneclan.com/forum/vie ... ?f=3&t=530

Thoughts and suggestions -- what would appeal, whether the Unicorn would be interested in such a thing -- are welcomed and valued. I look forward to talking with you. :)
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 8:47 pm

Doji Satevis wrote:Greetings from the Crane!

We would like to tender a proposal for an alliance, which we've been discussing here:

http://homeofthecraneclan.com/forum/vie ... ?f=3&t=530

Thoughts and suggestions -- what would appeal, whether the Unicorn would be interested in such a thing -- are welcomed and valued. I look forward to talking with you. :)
Actually, we had a recent (non public) poll regarding which clan to potentially ally with this arc and Crane was the top contender. Many are wary an alliance with Spider would be too risky given the circumstances.

So if we are to choose the second option, this proposal could take flight, but of course, we have to see what are the paths open to Crane before we can seriously contemplate this route.
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:03 pm

As I understand it, we have a choice between protecting the Peasants (Whichever way we decide to do that) and allying with another Clan.

While guiding the Spider off the road of darkness is interesting, there are a number of issues with it.

1- The path as written is following another Clan's lead. The Spider are leaning towards going Dark right now. Like, Pitch Black Oni Time Dark.

2- I'm not really seeing the benefit of sacrificing the opportunity to do the Unicorn Compassion thing and protect the peasants (again, one way or another) on the offhand chance we can sway the entire Spider playerbase.

As for the Crane alliance, sorry, but I'm leaning the same way on that. No objections to it other than the fact that the Peasants must come first, because no one else will think of them if the Clan of Compassion does not.

Also, MotoKCi, where was this poll? Was it before I joined? If so, would you mind sending me a link?
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Tue Apr 28, 2015 9:05 pm

To keep things simple I'd to take the following course of action(s) (some of which were already suggested):

-Follow path 1 but combine options A & B since they can both be done. The peasants should be able to defend themselves against bandits/samurai but I wouldn't ask them to fight alongside us against the Spider/Shadowlands. It's our duty to protect them after all.

-Should any clan choose to align their path with ours we receive the benefits of path 2 by default. An alliance with the Crane as suggested above is a strong possibility that I would like to explore along with protecting the Spider who chose to defect.

-As for our bonus option. I think we should explore the possibility of allying with the Yobanjin and possibly Merenae or Thrane. I exclude the Yodotai due to past conflicts between us and their desire to conquer.

Are there any other options that we want to consider?
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